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Post by xeoran on Dec 8, 2006 5:19:13 GMT -5
;D
Good old Mannerheim.
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Post by kousa on Dec 8, 2006 12:43:07 GMT -5
I just have to love the Quote form Marsalkka Mannerheim in his B-Day, as you might know he didnt like Hitler, and sead that he dont like to have enyting to do whit him, but he did have to invte him to his B-day and he did know that Hitler didnt eat meat or drink alcohol so Mannerheim did personaly make sure that every food had meat and every dink had alcohol and the quote goes someting like this "But you sure you dont want enyting to drink or to eat?" Allways love that, Finland, small but irritating nation..... on the same occasion Mannerheim started smoking a cigarette, and hitler's advisors were terrified (as hitler hated cigarette smoke)...after couple of minutes everyone at the dinnertable smoked except for hitler dunno about that, there was made some claims couple of months ago that he shipped 15,000 people to germany to work as slaves. but that's not for sure, it's being investigated by several historians at the moment
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Post by skorzeny on Dec 8, 2006 12:47:34 GMT -5
Maybe just getting rid of Red Army prisoners?
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Post by kousa on Dec 8, 2006 12:51:18 GMT -5
Maybe just getting rid of Red Army prisoners? yeah, it is a fact that red army prisoners were given to germans by finns. they're talking about normal people this time (communists, poor people (even in finnish scale at that time))
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Post by tuska on Dec 8, 2006 12:57:20 GMT -5
I just have to love the Quote form Marsalkka Mannerheim in his B-Day, as you might know he didnt like Hitler, and sead that he dont like to have enyting to do whit him, but he did have to invte him to his B-day and he did know that Hitler didnt eat meat or drink alcohol so Mannerheim did personaly make sure that every food had meat and every dink had alcohol and the quote goes someting like this "But you sure you dont want enyting to drink or to eat?" Allways love that, Finland, small but irritating nation..... on the same occasion Mannerheim started smoking a cigarette, and hitler's advisors were terrified (as hitler hated cigarette smoke)...after couple of minutes everyone at the dinnertable smoked except for hitler dunno about that, there was made some claims couple of months ago that he shipped 15,000 people to germany to work as slaves. but that's not for sure, it's being investigated by several historians at the moment Forgot the smokes, he relly did know how to rub it in Dont know about the prisons, Sweds clame the Finland eaven did have Death camps....
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Post by kousa on Dec 8, 2006 13:08:16 GMT -5
Forgot the smokes, he relly did know how to rub it in Dont know about the prisons, Sweds clame the Finland eaven did have Death camps.... he knew how to piss people off without doing it directly ;D as for the death camps, that's complete and utter BS. if there would have been any, they'd would have been discovered right away by historical investigators
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Post by skorzeny on Dec 9, 2006 1:12:47 GMT -5
Well, if he sent Finnish commies to Germany, I see that as a plus, not a negative. And, yeah, there were no extermination camps in Finland. Mannerheim was leary enough of the SS as it was, I don't think he would have remained terribly civil with something like Auschwitz running in his country.
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Post by xeoran on Dec 9, 2006 6:23:28 GMT -5
Well sending Finnish communists yes, it mnakes sense militarily- to Auschwitz though is not a good thing. (if thats what happened)
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Post by kousa on Dec 10, 2006 6:55:28 GMT -5
Molotov said this on his retirement days back in '75: "We were wise when we didn't conquer Finland. It would have became a leaky wound...People at there are very stubborn,very stubborn..."
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Post by tordenskjold on Dec 10, 2006 10:11:39 GMT -5
Maybe Molotov was right, if Finland had been conquered it could have turned into a USSR Ireland.
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Post by xeoran on Dec 10, 2006 12:43:42 GMT -5
Maybe Molotov was right, if Finland had been conquered it could have turned into a USSR Ireland. Not quite, the trouble with Ireland is that its divided in itself (there arew generally at least three factions which will usually have seperate factions within themselves too) over religious reasons. A better parallel to Ireland is current day Iraq. Finland would be more of an Afghanistan.
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Post by skorzeny on Dec 10, 2006 14:56:54 GMT -5
You can thank Cromwell for all the problems in Ireland. Might have conquered it in the short run, but boy have the repercussions filtered down through the ages.
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Post by xeoran on Dec 11, 2006 5:48:23 GMT -5
You can thank Cromwell for all the problems in Ireland. Might have conquered it in the short run, but boy have the repercussions filtered down through the ages. Not quite true. Cromwell gets a bad press he doesn't deserve in Ireland (For example the casulties caused after towns fell, which are often used as 'evidence' of his brutality, are in fact massively lower than the average on Mainland Europe). The real trouble was that Britain didn't stop Scottish Covanteers settling in Ireland (although to be fair all Scots are basicly Irish). This led to the religious problems and thanks to neither side being willing to back down or accomadate each other we've had all the various troubles. The actual war of independance was fairly short, its just the religious troubles that continue to today (that and the IRA's new hobbty of robbing banks now that America is no longer willing to allow its citizens to finance their terrorism).
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Post by tuska on Dec 11, 2006 5:48:35 GMT -5
Maybe Molotov was right, if Finland had been conquered it could have turned into a USSR Ireland. Not quite, the trouble with Ireland is that its divided in itself (there arew generally at least three factions which will usually have seperate factions within themselves too) over religious reasons. A better parallel to Ireland is current day Iraq. Finland would be more of an Afghanistan. i wod say Finland wod be in same as tsetsenia today....
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Post by xeoran on Dec 11, 2006 6:02:26 GMT -5
Tsetsenia? Sorry, is that Chechneya? (or am I just being slow today...)
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