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Post by brotherakkyshan on Dec 19, 2009 13:38:34 GMT -5
From what I've read about the Volkssturm (in the real world setting) it would seem that they were a poorly equipped, un-uniformed militia force. From the pictures I've seen posted on here it wouls seem that people tend to use the German Trooper minis. I've some Musketeer inter-war minitures that I'm thinking of using to represent Volkssturm. They're armed with rifles (though one has a sort of machine gun) and have a mixture of civilian clothes, caps and tin helmets. Does anyone else feel they would better represent 'last ditch' defenders? Do the AE-WWII rules represent them as something else entirely?
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Post by Darkson on Dec 19, 2009 14:22:48 GMT -5
We will have Darkson Volkssturm in 2010. The sculptor that did the American GI's and the new Soviet Conscripts will be doing single part Volkssturm as well.
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Post by sephirob on Dec 20, 2009 0:57:36 GMT -5
You just keep making me do happy dances with all this great news of upcoming German minis. Can't wait to see these!
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Post by skorzeny on Dec 20, 2009 1:43:37 GMT -5
The Volksturm in the rulebook are better thought of as 'Volksgrenadier' - who were poorly trained but relatively well-equipped troops. Volksturm, on the other hand, are hastily outfitted civilians whose uniform consists of an armband and who were fitted out with any gun that could be found (sometimes so obscure they couldn't find any more ammo for them except what they got with the rifle). The Europe book will address this error. We're working on rules for units who have 'random' equipment which i hope will help lend a real adhoc feel to poorly equipped troops like Volksturm or Resistance fighters.
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Post by brotherakkyshan on Dec 20, 2009 9:16:32 GMT -5
So would people generally feel it was ok to use my 'resistance' style models as Volkstrum until the rules are changed/altered?
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Post by mkcontra on Dec 20, 2009 9:44:48 GMT -5
Go for it!
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Post by Scorpio on Dec 20, 2009 13:15:28 GMT -5
Indeed, it's a pretty laid-back crowd around here. The Darkson figs are so good you will want to use them, but for the stuff they haven't put out yet, just go with what you have.
I'd love to do brownshirts with that armband, but I don't think my detail painting would be up to snuff...
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Post by evernevermore(john) on Dec 21, 2009 17:51:08 GMT -5
One Piece Volkstrum will be really sweet - even if not much use with my Waffen SS force.
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Post by mkcontra on Dec 21, 2009 19:32:44 GMT -5
What you don't need minis for your SS conscripts?
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Post by brotherakkyshan on Dec 22, 2009 0:44:52 GMT -5
Still waiting on the book to arrive... What is the state is Germany itself in when the game is set? Have the allies started bombing Berlin/Dussledorf/etc? Has Hitler gone into 'retreat'?
I'm thinking of basing my force around a bombed out Berlin... Volkssturm, veteran Waffen-SS, snipers, SS officers, lots of Pazerfausts, etc. ;D
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Post by cybogoblin on Dec 22, 2009 14:11:24 GMT -5
I won't go into too much detail (mostly because it is early and I've been up all night), but here's one important difference with AE-WWII - the D-Day landings were a failure. Germany is in a much better state (more or less) than it was in reality.
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Post by evernevermore(john) on Dec 24, 2009 18:29:28 GMT -5
I won't go into too much detail (mostly because it is early and I've been up all night), but here's one important difference with AE-WWII - the D-Day landings were a failure. Germany is in a much better state (more or less) than it was in reality. Better is a relative term, as I read the fluff the bombing offensives of the US Army Air and the British have still pounded Germany something hard, meaning the Volkssturm will still be armed with hand-me-downs and obscure weapons as first priority for arms will still go to the Waffen SS and the Wehrmacht. Just because D-Day failed doesnt mean German industry hasnt been reduced to cottage output. Im more interested in the status of Polesti - thats far far more critical in the long run to the status of the German war machine. I know that Rommel is in the Middle East with the goal of capturing the oil fields but I believe its still up in the air. |
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Post by bmtptsd on Dec 25, 2009 0:18:35 GMT -5
Was this the same thing as the Wehrwolf resistance movement?  Attachments:
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Post by skorzeny on Dec 25, 2009 23:06:43 GMT -5
No, Werwolf was a separate thing. It grew out of an SS armed resistance effort in the late stage of the war that had limited success. The 'Wolf's Angle' symbol was used by the Nazi resistance movement during Allied occupation of Germany and because of this continues to be an outlawed symbol in modern Germany.
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Post by Darkson on Dec 25, 2009 23:12:31 GMT -5
So needless to say you wont be seeing it in any AE books.  |
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