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Post by Darkson on May 19, 2009 22:41:40 GMT -5
So to go along with the what Faction would you like to see topic what symbols would you use for each Faction?
Example Germans use the Iron Cross, Yanks use the Star.
So what would you use for the British, Japanese, etc....
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Post by cybogoblin on May 20, 2009 0:33:30 GMT -5
For the Japanese, a red sun against a white background would be simple enough, but might be a little too close to home for some. Adding 'rays' coming off the sun would be closer to the reality of WW2. Alternately, a stylised chrysantenum (sp) could also work. As for the Brits, I can't find any examples of markings online. It seems most were given regiment markings, but that's it. You could always go with the RAF symbol, as seen here. |
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Post by Darkson on May 20, 2009 0:41:38 GMT -5
I was thinking of the RAF rounders like in your post but would that fit for the entire Faction or just the RAF.
I want to get a feel from our British folks on this?
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Post by turtle on May 20, 2009 1:01:48 GMT -5
Perhaps just a silhouette of the UK landmass? It's a distinctive shape, and you can superimpose it on other symbols like the RAF symbol.
In certain Asian countries, the Japanese battle flag is equivalent to the Nazi swastika, however, it's still in use by the Japanese military to this day.
Don't just limit iconography usage to the factions though. You could easily use icons for things like unit training levels (green, regular, etc...) along with unit types (infantry, specialist, support, etc...) to cut down on the amount of text and space for unit entries, allowing you to pack in more information into an entry, or leave space for more artwork, without losing clarity.
For example, using icons could cut down on the size of things like detachment lists in the main rulebook. This would allow you to easily compress them to use just half a page each, with no information bleeding over to other pages, or new sections starting at the bottom of a page where it can be confusing.
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Post by fattdex on May 20, 2009 3:37:22 GMT -5
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Post by Crazy Ivan on May 20, 2009 3:55:25 GMT -5
I like the St George Cross idea, there are actual historical precedents for it (mostly medieval, but still). It might look a bit too much like the Red Cross though, like you'd have an army of medics... What about the Union Flag (Union Jack)? It's very distinctive and very British. And it looks very nice on parachutes too. ;D A pet idea of mine would be a stylized picture of Saint George slaying the Dragon. Would be very symbolic for those British ("for England and St. George!") fighting the German abominations ("dragons"): upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/Stgeorge-dragon.jpgHowever, I imagine it would be rather hard to make it simple enough to be useful. |
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Post by olaf on May 20, 2009 4:22:55 GMT -5
Can't go wrong with the Union Flag no mistaking who it represents.
You cannot really use the cross of St. George, this is specifically English, we cannot ignore the Irish, Scots and Welsh.
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Post by cheif on May 20, 2009 4:30:25 GMT -5
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Post by xeoran on May 20, 2009 4:30:50 GMT -5
I'd go with the RAF roundel. Problem is UK forces used the same white star as the Americans.
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Post by cybogoblin on May 20, 2009 5:35:45 GMT -5
The Union Flag would be distinctive, though might take a little practice to be able to paint well. Symbols like the Rose and Bulldog might be better used as regimental markings (like the Desert Rats' Gerboa in North Africa). The Italians could use the old Roman symbol of staves and axes, as seen here. I can't remember the real name, I spent too much time sleeping in my Roman History classes  |
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Post by Crazy Ivan on May 20, 2009 5:48:37 GMT -5
The Italians could use the old Roman symbol of staves and axes, as seen here. I can't remember the real name, I spent too much time sleeping in my Roman History classes That's the fasces (latin: "bundles"). The word "Fascism" is derived from it. Would be a nice and obvious choice for the Italians. Similarly, for the Spanish (if they're going to be in the game), the "Yoke and Arrows" of the Falange might be useful: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bandera_FE_JONS.svg |
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Post by Cilionelle on May 20, 2009 6:53:43 GMT -5
St George and the Dragon is a little bit anti-Welsh for my tastes... especially considering the British forces include "outside" help, like Lovat scouts. I'd go with the pic of the British Isles for them. Red Star for the Soviets, but maybe something more medieval for Rasputin and his henchthings? Yanks is the white star, Japanese prob'ly the Rising Sun (but morphed somehow, depending on the weapons they are using?).
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Post by Scorpio on May 20, 2009 8:20:05 GMT -5
I've been curious: was there an official name for the American white star emblem?
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Post by tordenskjold on May 21, 2009 6:13:38 GMT -5
I've been curious: was there an official name for the American white star emblem? I think was something like "That white star"  There's no name for it, it's just a white star. |
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Post by mechaace on Jun 1, 2009 7:12:01 GMT -5
Yeah I wouldn't use the English flag, as stated it basically ignores the rest of Great Britain. The Union flag could be used. Though technically that doesn't include Wales either.
I think it would probably either be that, or it would be the RAF roundel. As already stated the Brits used the White Star, presumably it became the de facto symbol of the Allies.
On the topic of faction symbols, is there anything representing the symbols used by the various branches. Like is there an ARPA symbol etc that would be added to the uniform, similar in style to like Hellboy and the B.P.R.D.
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