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Post by abbysdad on Jul 2, 2010 18:30:01 GMT -5
TANKS! TANKS! Here they come. These are the rules that will be used in the Lightning War GenCon event. Let us know what you think. darksondesigns.com/?p=104 |
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Post by silentbob27 on Jul 2, 2010 20:07:36 GMT -5
Aw yeah! Now I just need a Panzer IV and Panzer II. Sweet
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Post by Darkson on Jul 3, 2010 1:28:03 GMT -5
Hints to what we are doing for the next 6 books are in this issue of OTW!! Yes next 6 books.  |
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Post by cybogoblin on Jul 3, 2010 3:22:37 GMT -5
...?
Army books for each of the factions?
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Post by abbysdad on Jul 3, 2010 4:03:37 GMT -5
Maybe. But the open letter in the intro gives it like this:
1 british empire book
1 european theater book (for now...)
1 iraqi campaign book (Basra: 1946)
3 books on the pacific war
Book 1 of the pacific war has the japanese, us and australians in it.
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Post by evernevermore(john) on Jul 3, 2010 15:25:53 GMT -5
Nice PDF.. but heres my initial questions and comments
Why do German crews have StG44s instead of MPs? Historically tank crews carried subguns. Just saying
For future PDFs with rules like this, any chance of bookmarks?
Looks like Im going to have to post states for my 38(t)
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Post by skorzeny on Jul 3, 2010 17:19:05 GMT -5
Later in the war most German tank crews had StG44s - that is what the curved barrel extension was designed for - not to shoot around corners, but so tank crews could 'hose off' their vehicles of Russians without opening any of the hatches.
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Post by abbysdad on Jul 3, 2010 19:33:12 GMT -5
For future PDFs with rules like this, any chance of bookmarks? Let us know if you will be usikng these rules on the screen or printed out. We included a cover and a table of contents and the page number references in the quick reference tables to make it easy to use when printed out. But if more people are going to use it on an e-reader, then we'll make sure to include bookmarks and easy electronic references too. The size of this OTW is not typical. We wanted anyone to be able to use the basic tank rules in the Lightning War event and that took some room to explain. Let us know what other comments you guys have, good and bad. It's how we'll get better. Cheers, Chris |
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Post by evernevermore(john) on Jul 3, 2010 22:18:07 GMT -5
Later in the war most German tank crews had StG44s - that is what the curved barrel extension was designed for - not to shoot around corners, but so tank crews could 'hose off' their vehicles of Russians without opening any of the hatches. Ive only seen subgun hangers in the reference materials I have - though I dont have much on interiors post Panzer 4s |
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Post by fattdex on Jul 4, 2010 6:13:04 GMT -5
Awesome!
Have only had a scan, but
"While the Tetrarch is extremely fast and can be
deployed both in an amphibious capacity and
being towed behind a glider,"
Whilst a tank being towed behind a glider is an amusing image, more accurately airborne Tetrach tanks were transported in and deployed from towed Hamilcar gliders ;-)
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Post by gnomesofzurich on Jul 4, 2010 7:54:17 GMT -5
Having given a thorough read-through of this, thanks very much for the tank rules!
I do have a couple of questions:
The text for the Field Commander (pg 18 of OtW, pg 20 of the PDF) is cut off, "If this option is chosen the Field Commander must be placed as a..." Is it as a passenger in the light command vehicle?
Can the driver of the Tumbleweed fire the forward gun? It would seem to be similar to a hull mounted gun, but is not labeled as such, so I'm wondering whether this tank can fire all of its guns in an activation or not.
Under Anti-Tank Tactics (pg 36 of the PDF), the text on the Lower Their Drive section doesn't seem to match up with what is at the bottom of the left hand column and the top of the right hand column. On the left hand column, the last sentence is, "If the drive of the detachment is low, the tank will be have a worse chance of getting the first activation during a turn and will become" and it is continued in the top of the right hand column as, "tank by applying multiple drive losses or suppressing the tank crew." How is this supposed to be worded?
The entry under the T-34/76 tank lists Sloped Armor (1). What does this mean? The description for Sloped Armor in the document doesn't appear to come in levels.
Edit: If you sacrifice a unit selection to take the Tank Ace upgrade (which grants one free tank upgrade) and take a Tank Mechanic (which grants up to two upgrade options), do you end up with a total of four (Tank Ace and three upgrade options from pgs 22-23 of the PDF) or three (Tank Ace and two upgrade options)?
Thanks!
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Post by abbysdad on Jul 4, 2010 10:01:39 GMT -5
The text for the Field Commander (pg 18 of OtW, pg 20 of the PDF) is cut off, "If this option is chosen the Field Commander must be placed as a..." Is it as a passenger in the light command vehicle?" Yes. The field commander text that was mysteriously cut off in the PDF is included in the paragraph below. "Options: This model may be placed in a vehicle as a passenger. This model may be upgraded to elite. A detachment with this model may sacrifice one (1) hero selection, one (1) special order and one (1) regular slot for a vehicle with the light command role. If this option is chosen the Field Commander must be placed as a passenger in the command vehicle." Correct. The forward gun in the Tumbleweed is a hull gun. The driver can fire it. Wow. Quite a bit of that text was cut off. Here is the section as it was supposed to be shown below. "Lower Their Drive: Tanks are still part of the detachment. The other models in a tank detachment are often much easier to eliminate, so go for the soft targets first to reduce the drive of the tank. If the drive of the detachment is low, the tank will be have a worse chance of getting the first activation during a turn and will become more likely to rout if they do take any wounds. This will allow you to focus on the objectives of the detachment and then use scenario rules like Voluntary Withdrawal to deny the tank attrition objectives. Units like the NKVD Banshees or the SS Hellhounds can make it really difficult for a tank by applying multiple drive losses or suppressing the tank crew." Correct. Ignore the (1) after the Sloped Armor. The Tank Ace is referred to as a "tank upgrade" in the text but it is a hero selection, under the new heroes options for tanks. A Tank Ace does NOT count against your limit of three upgrades on a tank. The Tank Ace does count against the hero selections in the detachment. If the Tank Ace is removed from the game, your tank will lose the benefits of a Tank Ace (+1 H during sprints, -1 RC) but NOT the free Tank Upgrade. You're welcome! Thanks for looking over the document and letting us know what you think. We're really excited about bringing tanks into the game. Feel free to post any other comments or concerns you have. Cheers, Chris |
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Post by abbysdad on Jul 4, 2010 10:04:14 GMT -5
Awesome! Have only had a scan, but "While the Tetrarch is extremely fast and can be deployed both in an amphibious capacity and being towed behind a glider," Whilst a tank being towed behind a glider is an amusing image, more accurately airborne Tetrach tanks were transported in and deployed from towed Hamilcar gliders ;-) These are special light weight tanks! ;D Thanks for that. |
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Post by Doctor Warlock on Jul 4, 2010 16:53:11 GMT -5
I've read it cover to cover now, and absolutely love it!
Top Banana - keep up the sterling work!
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Post by pixelgeek on Jul 4, 2010 20:39:44 GMT -5
Is there going to be an updated PDF posted with the corrections?
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