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Post by rickypimous on Feb 24, 2011 4:30:27 GMT -5
We can do suppression when we move and fire. But can we still stack several shots and the maximum movement ?
Exemple : a Veteran (3AP) with a Move of 3 and armed with a pistol. He want to spend all his 3 AP in 1 suppression to force opponent to make his drive test at -3. But he also want to move. Can he :
1) Either move 9'' and make 1 suppression giving the -3 at anytime during his movement. 2) Or move only 3'' and make 1 suppression giving the -3 at anytime during his movement.
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Post by dijit80 on Feb 24, 2011 6:45:18 GMT -5
Hmmm, good question. I guess that he can make a suppression shot with each action point he uses where he can see the target. So if on the first AP he can't see the target, whilst on the last two he can then he suppresses with -2. Does that make sense? Thats how at least I'd play it, though it's not come up yet for us. Duncan
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Post by rickypimous on Feb 24, 2011 8:12:56 GMT -5
Good point.
But firstly, lets consider that he can see the target during all its activation.
Even then you can also have a similar problem : a target that was behind cover during the first 3'' might be without cover just after.
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Post by lorka on Feb 27, 2011 4:25:00 GMT -5
Yes that is a rather good question, but since each shoot is a separate shot and you can chose a different target between shots I would allow both a single suppression roll at -3; or 3 separate suppression rolls at -1. I would even allow you to make one -1 drive roll against target 1 than a second -2 drive roll against target 2.
The one with the cover against the first move, well I guess you can claim cover against the first shot and thus demand that its either -3 with cover bonus or one with -1 and cover and then one (at -2) or two rolls (at -1) more without cover.
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Post by rickypimous on Feb 28, 2011 11:16:48 GMT -5
My question is more about the max. move we can do with max suppression bonus. Full move or only 1 move ?
The question rised because if you use a slow weapon (exemple : a long rifle 1:2) with Articulated Weapon Harness you still have to spend 2 AP to move 3'' and fire. You cannot choose to move 6'' and fire 1 time with your long rifle during these 6'' for 2 AP.
So I was wondering if the situation is similar with suppression : all extra stacking shot after the first one should need to spend extra AP independently of the movement ?
Note my idea was to use an elite pistoleer, so potential 8 times -1 suppression or a 1 time -8 suppression with 12'' movement (or any combination in between).
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Post by lorka on Feb 28, 2011 16:08:40 GMT -5
Well lets say you make separate shots while you move and fire, but only roll in the end with a penalty depending on how many shots was actually fired.
So in your case it would be 12" movement and up to -8 on the suppression roll. But if you are not in range before say you second move then it would 'only' be -6. I think this would be fair enough.
But it would be fine with me also to go the other way so you spend more AP to move and fire like with 1:2 weapons.
I guess both is reasonable, why not agree to try both and see?
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Post by rickypimous on Mar 1, 2011 5:53:54 GMT -5
Yes, I also think both are reasonable. But only one should be correct at the end. That's why I hope to get an official answer. Until then, I think I will use the second option and use more AP, like a 1:2 weapon.
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