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Post by lorka on Mar 15, 2011 15:07:50 GMT -5
Ahh well, I still think you cannot move while in cover, and yes that is really what I wanted answered more than any thing. I mean I don't mind that you can move around a little like running in a trench while suppressed, I just think that it open up for a whole lot of abuse.
E.g. suppressed unit of 3 crewmen with ATW and Teleporter, they can then teleport anywhere as long as they are in some kind of definition of cover, they can shoot since ATW can shoot while suppressed so in other words they are immune to suppression hehe.
Actually I think its the teleporter thats the real problem really.
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Post by varagon on Mar 16, 2011 0:29:10 GMT -5
You gain cover based on the shooter's perspective. If you are in cover, you remain in the cover that was protecting you when suppressed. You don't get to decide which cover you want to use as cover.
That's the idea of suppression, to keep a unit from moving around.
I'll double check to see if you can move from "cover" to "cover" while suppressed to get an official answer.
Speaking of which, at this point, what is the exact question I need to be asking if it's not what I just mentioned?
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Post by lorka on Mar 16, 2011 6:42:31 GMT -5
The real arguments is if you can move around when suppressed while in cover?
Since depending on the cover you can then more or less ignore you are suppressed.
If you can move when in cover, what about a teleporter can you teleport all over as long as you are in cover where you end up? Can you blind teleport with the risk of ending up in the open?
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Post by lorka on Apr 17, 2011 16:01:56 GMT -5
So is there a ruling on movement while suppressed and in cover?
We just had another game where units with teleporters could move all over while being suppressed. Battle report to come, it was a interesting game where my pirates was up against Apostles that was -2 to hit and armor 7.
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Post by ibasse on Apr 17, 2011 18:22:27 GMT -5
I don't see why you wouldn't be able to. On the other hand I can think of a couple of semi-broken things if suppressed models are completely pinned. Looking forward to the battlereport - hope you had some grenades/grenade launchers to ignore the -2 to range or some close combat monsters/psychic dudes to help with the armour
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Post by lorka on May 25, 2011 4:24:36 GMT -5
You gain cover based on the shooter's perspective. If you are in cover, you remain in the cover that was protecting you when suppressed. You don't get to decide which cover you want to use as cover. That's the idea of suppression, to keep a unit from moving around. I'll double check to see if you can move from "cover" to "cover" while suppressed to get an official answer. Speaking of which, at this point, what is the exact question I need to be asking if it's not what I just mentioned? So than can you move when you are suppressed and in cover or not? What if you are out LOS of the model that suppressed you?
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Post by Cilionelle on May 25, 2011 8:00:43 GMT -5
It would be nice to have the official word on this...
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Post by lorka on Dec 28, 2011 23:47:13 GMT -5
So now you had 6 months to think, what's the ruling on moving while supressed and in cover? Teleporting both with LOS and blind? And what happens when you don't have LOS to the unit that supressed you?
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Post by varagon on Dec 29, 2011 1:38:32 GMT -5
Once you are suppressed, you move to the nearest cover. Once there, you can't move to another "cover." You don't get to move around from cover to cover- however, you can move as long as you stay behind the cover you chose to hide behind.
You are considered suppressed until you break it, or the shooting model doesn't suppress you again or you find another way out of suppression.
That's official until you hear otherwise.
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Post by lorka on Dec 30, 2011 10:37:10 GMT -5
Thank you very much mate
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Post by varagon on Dec 30, 2011 13:26:32 GMT -5
If you find issues with the way it was ruled, please let us know. We can't find every problem or concern alone, as hard as we try.
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