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Post by Cilionelle on Mar 5, 2011 7:53:06 GMT -5
...I made this. Not as nasty, but still.
Veteran Detachment
E - MoAA Operative, Mounted Hero (Pendant of Warding, Fang of the Lambton Worm, Royal Shield, Sword, Sten Mk V, Pistol, Grenades)
V - Palestinian Vizier, Mounted Hero
V - Arab Legion Naib
R - Arab Legion Cavalry
R - Arab Legion Cavalry
R - Arab Legion Cavalry
R - sacrificed for an additional Hero choice
Special Order: ____________
There's also the command detachment version which gets a jeep but less troops, but an extra special order.
Command Detachment
E - MoAA Operative, Mounted Hero (Pendant of Warding, Fang of the Lambton Worm, Royal Shield, Sword, Sten Mk V, Pistol, Grenades)
V - Palestinian Vizier, Mounted Hero
V - Arab Legion Naib
R - Arab Legion Cavalry
R - Arab Legion Cavalry
Special Orders: ____________, ____________
And I still have no idea about special orders, either. Trap is fantastic, as is Keep Moving. Hrmm. Any thoughts? And I think I will take rifle grenades in there too, to deal with harder targets.
A couple of questions:
1) if a mounted Naib takes the One Man Army hero type, does that lower both his and his mounts movement, or just his?
2) Is the Naib supposed to have Command? I thought I saw this discussed somewhere but I couldn't find it...
3) Are mounted infantry infantry for the purposes of fulfilling detachment criteria (ie. "...must contain at least half units from..."
Cheers!
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Post by Cilionelle on Mar 7, 2011 0:42:08 GMT -5
Okay, some additional questions:
4) What advantages are there to having a lance?
5) Are there any weapons a mounted infantry force can bring to destroy (rather than disable) tanks? (Even rifle grenades aren't an option, since the Arab Legion Cavalry aren't equipped with grenades...)
6) Further to that, are the anti-tank changes to a rifle grenadier's weapons via the Anti-Tank special order just to their regular weapon (like an upgrade) or do they have to find another armor piercing weapon? For instance, a British army unit has one rifle grenadier. Does his Rifle No.4 MkII become armor-piercing, or does he get a Blacker Bombard, PIAT or something?
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Post by Cilionelle on Mar 7, 2011 3:37:59 GMT -5
Okay, one last question... 7) Does the Naib count as infantry still, once he's mounted on a horse? Edit: Okay, after some tinkering and switching and fretting, I've finally got the solution. Better than both the Veteran, which lacked a special order, and the Command, which was missing a unit, the Occult detachment suits my purposes perfectly, since the list includes an Occultist (the Vizier) and the MoAA Operative. Win! 2nd Major Edit: I've just realized I misread the detachment slots. I've got an extra Regular unit in there. Poo. Ah well, the Occult is still one of the best, apart from gnomes' idea of the Cavalry detachment. It's now though the same as my illegal Command detachment above.  So, questions 1, 2 and 3 have been answered (the Naib can't take a hero template; he does have Command; mounted infantry are not infantry, hence the dilemma of which detachment to use...) but the other 5 still stand. Occult DetachmentE – MoAA Operative, Mounted Hero (Pendant of Warding, Fang of the Lambton Worm, Royal Shield, Sword, Sten Mk V, Pistol, Grenades) V – Palestinian Vizier, Mounted Hero V – Arab Legion Naib R – Arab Legion Cavalry R – Arab Legion Cavalry G – sacrificed for an additional Hero choiceG – sacrificed for an additional Special OrderSpecial Orders: ____________, ____________ |
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Post by Cilionelle on Mar 21, 2011 0:10:28 GMT -5
Well, the minis arrived today! Hooray! So, I'm in the process of putting 9 figures on horses and basing them. Pics I hope will follow.
(Any chance of getting these questions answered though?)
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Post by gnomesofzurich on Mar 21, 2011 5:34:55 GMT -5
Well, the minis arrived today! Hooray! So, I'm in the process of putting 9 figures on horses and basing them. Pics I hope will follow. (Any chance of getting these questions answered though?) Out of curiosity, which miniatures did you order for your Arab Legion cavalry? Further, to question 6 the text and accompanying list of support/specialist choices certainly seems to suggest that the rifle grenadier replaces his weapon with an appropriate armour-piercing rifle, but I wouldn't mind some further clarification on this. |
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Post by Cilionelle on Mar 21, 2011 6:19:04 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, which miniatures did you order for your Arab Legion cavalry? All the figures are from Brigade Games. Quite nice minis, low flash, very few lines on them. Only had one broken sword when they arrived. Arab Irregular Cavalry IArab Irregular Cavalry IIDaughters of the Desert cavalry figures - for my Palestinian Vizierette (the one with the sword and dagger) Sons of the Desert cavalry figures - for my Naib and extra whomever. I stole a horse from the pack and mounted an Archaeologist con-only figure on him, giving him a Sten (see below a little bit...) and a sheathed Fang at his side. I am also using a set of Sten Mk Vs and SMLE Mk III*s from the Assault Group ( this and this, for those Irregulars without modelled-on rifles, and for the MoAA Operative. Further, to question 6 the text and accompanying list of support/specialist choices certainly seems to suggest that the rifle grenadier replaces his weapon with an appropriate armour-piercing rifle, but I wouldn't mind some further clarification on this. I thought so too, but I wanted to check. |
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Post by gnomesofzurich on Mar 21, 2011 11:17:41 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, which miniatures did you order for your Arab Legion cavalry? All the figures are from Brigade Games. Quite nice minis, low flash, very few lines on them. Only had one broken sword when they arrived. Arab Irregular Cavalry IArab Irregular Cavalry IIDaughters of the Desert cavalry figures - for my Palestinian Vizierette (the one with the sword and dagger) Sons of the Desert cavalry figures - for my Naib and extra whomever. I stole a horse from the pack and mounted an Archaeologist con-only figure on him, giving him a Sten (see below a little bit...) and a sheathed Fang at his side. I am also using a set of Sten Mk Vs and SMLE Mk III*s from the Assault Group ( this and this, for those Irregulars without modelled-on rifles, and for the MoAA Operative. Further, to question 6 the text and accompanying list of support/specialist choices certainly seems to suggest that the rifle grenadier replaces his weapon with an appropriate armour-piercing rifle, but I wouldn't mind some further clarification on this. I thought so too, but I wanted to check. Nice find, those minis should look great. As an aside, how do you find Brigade Games? I was looking at a few models on their site, but the shipping rates they charge for Canada are a little high. Another fun list along similar lines I was giving some thought to is either an ROA or Red Army Cavalry detachment: Veteran: Kazak Uryandnik Regular: Kazak Cavalry Regular: Kazak Cavalry Regular: Kazak Cavalry Green: Sac to upgrade Green to Regular Vehicles: 2 Jeeps w/ MG I might throw it together if I can find some decent WWII Cossack models. Anyone have any suggestions? |
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Post by Cilionelle on Mar 21, 2011 17:02:40 GMT -5
That would be a fun list. The advantage that the Kazaks have over the Arabs is that the SVT is ROF 1:1 whereas the Mk III* is 1:2 (and the Arabs don't have Rifle Drill like the rest of the British Army. Another advantage is that the Kazak Uryandnik can be a Hero, and the Naib can't (which seems an oversight, despite a post to the contrary). But you'll face the same troubles killing hard targets as me (mitigated a little by the possibility of taking the Tank Hunter hero for your Uryandnik...).
The jeeps are nice, though, for both suppression and mobility.
As to Brigade Games, I have never had a problem with them; Lon seems like a great bloke, and they have a huge variety of minis! I really like it. The website needs a bit of an overhaul. And the shipping rates to Australia are fine.
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