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Post by cosworth on Mar 24, 2011 3:42:02 GMT -5
1. Do routing enemy units count as eliminated for a merc crew when calculating the faction objective?
2. Are routing units still on the table at the end of turn 6 valid for claiming the "Delaying action" secondary objective?
3. Do routed units roll on the casualty table in campaign play?
I would think no to all 3 but can't find hard evidence in the rules to support this.
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Post by ibasse on Mar 24, 2011 5:32:50 GMT -5
Routing units are not removed as casualties. I do not believe this is stated anywhere, and all the conditions for at least 1. and 3. require the models to be removed as casualties (or get captured in number 3's case). I can however not find anything in the rules about 2.
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Post by lorka on Mar 24, 2011 7:35:10 GMT -5
1. If they leave the table they surrender, so yes and no depending if they left or not. 2. Yes ... well maybe does it say routing units on the table don't count then they don't, else they do  3. If they leave the table they are KIA, if not they are fine they just need to calm down a bit. That is how Lasse and I ruled it when we had a similar situation. I believe under campaign it says something to that effect. |
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Post by ibasse on Mar 24, 2011 7:55:18 GMT -5
1. If they leave the table they surrender, so yes and no depending if they left or not. I believe models only surrender if reduced to 0 drive in close combat or if the Surrender! Dirty Trick is used. To quote the rules: "Routing units will either surrender OR flee the field of battle as quickly as possible, hoping to fight another day." It then goes on to describe the rules for having 0 drive in CC and then describes the rules for routing. It also seems a little harsh to deem anyone routing the field KIA. I could see rolling on the casualty table to see if they desert or get caught though. |
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Post by cosworth on Mar 24, 2011 8:40:34 GMT -5
1. If they leave the table they surrender, so yes and no depending if they left or not. 2. Yes ... well maybe does it say routing units on the table don't count then they don't, else they do 3. If they leave the table they are KIA, if not they are fine they just need to calm down a bit. That is how Lasse and I ruled it when we had a similar situation. I believe under campaign it says something to that effect. Do you have any rulebook references to support your conclusions? |
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Post by lorka on Mar 24, 2011 10:19:19 GMT -5
Well I just read the rule again and nope I was wrong.
1 & 3 is NO!
2 I am still leaning towards yes tho
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Post by cosworth on Mar 24, 2011 11:42:41 GMT -5
Just found this under AE WWII: First off welcome to AE its always good to have new blood fighting battles. ;D When a unit routs off the table, is the temp drive loss on all the other units removed?NO this is a permanent loss of drive. When a unit routs off the table is it considered a casualty for permanent drive loss and the attrition objective?YES Matthew will correct me if I am leading you a stray.  So that means 1 Yes - if they made it off the table 2: Still unclear - Still leaning towards no. 3. Yes - if they made it off the table |
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Post by Darkson on Mar 27, 2011 22:49:34 GMT -5
#2: NO
Routing Units are to busy trying to save their own asses to attempt to delay anyone. They are just trying to survive.
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Post by ibasse on Mar 29, 2011 6:09:46 GMT -5
Makes sense. Cheers |
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