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Post by captainapache on Apr 28, 2011 17:33:34 GMT -5
Probably a silly question, but today, whilst playing a scenario, my opponent questioned my use of a gravity belt to charge into CC. Is this a legal move? Thanks.
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Post by Cilionelle on Apr 28, 2011 17:42:52 GMT -5
Yeah, think of the operator increasing the gravity in front of them to give an extra burst of speed, or jumping and increasing the gravity to accelerate their fall toward the target.
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Post by captainapache on Apr 28, 2011 17:49:41 GMT -5
Thanks Cilionelle  I was pretty sure that was the answer, but needed the proof to show my opponent  It's getting quite competitive! |
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Post by ibasse on Apr 28, 2011 18:06:01 GMT -5
There is nothing in the gravity belt description that would indicate it not being a legal move. +1 MA and a beefed up version of sure-footed, so if anything it gets easier to charge |
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Post by varagon on Apr 28, 2011 18:26:31 GMT -5
There is nothing in the gravity belt description that would indicate it not being a legal move. +1 MA and a beefed up version of sure-footed, so if anything it gets easier to charge It does. However, they are taking the belt instead of scope, additional armor, wounds, cybernetic feet, or other equipment. They give up something for the belt. There is a tradeoff. |
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Post by captainapache on Apr 28, 2011 18:47:14 GMT -5
Well I hope that I played it correctly.
My opponent had placed his figure in a position that he was sure I wouldn't be able to reach with a regular charge move - around the corner of a building. He wasn't aware that since our last game I had equipped a member of my crew with a Gravity Belt. I traced a straight line from my figure to his which passed over the building and straight into base to base contact with him.
The look on his face was one of disbelief and prompted the cry of "You can't do that!!"
Hence the initial question.
Did I play it correctly?
Incidentally, the target was wiped out ;D
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Post by varagon on Apr 28, 2011 20:59:48 GMT -5
As long as you followed the rules of the gravity belt, then yup.  When I first started playing, I wanted to use the personal teleporter to move in to base to base, but found out otherwise- It's not a legal move. lol Nice work. |
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Post by Cilionelle on Apr 28, 2011 22:31:07 GMT -5
Remember too that if you can't see a model, you generally can't charge it...
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Post by ibasse on Apr 28, 2011 22:42:21 GMT -5
Well I hope that I played it correctly. My opponent had placed his figure in a position that he was sure I wouldn't be able to reach with a regular charge move - around the corner of a building. He wasn't aware that since our last game I had equipped a member of my crew with a Gravity Belt. I traced a straight line from my figure to his which passed over the building and straight into base to base contact with him. The look on his face was one of disbelief and prompted the cry of "You can't do that!!" Hence the initial question. Did I play it correctly? Incidentally, the target was wiped out ;D You can not charge a target the model can not see, so your opponent was right. I would also say your interpretation of being able to trace a straight line is a tad too liberal here... I mean, I can always trace a straight line to a target if I ignore the terrain The only time you can charge around corners is with the alien that can charge psychics around corners. |
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Post by varagon on Apr 29, 2011 0:03:24 GMT -5
Definitely. I didn't take LoS into consideration- just the rules of the gravity belt.
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Post by captainapache on Apr 29, 2011 8:49:10 GMT -5
Oh dear. I feel bad for my opponent now  The LoS rule for charging was something I didn't think of. But I guess it's obvious if you can only charge in a straight line. The Gravity Belt seemed to offer new possibilities which caused me to forget the fact. Oh well, each game teaches me something new, and each new piece of gear brings new questions. But, why can't a Gravity Belt jump over a building if it's low enough and doesn't leave me short on movement to reach my target ? The user has to go up and down with the jump and this obviously uses movement points - which I took into consideration. If I can't see him, fair enough - no charge, but if he's visible through a window for instance and he is within charge range including any upward or downward movement, surely this is ok?  Thanks for all the input everyone |
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Post by Cilionelle on Apr 29, 2011 10:13:11 GMT -5
Yeah, if you can see the target but there is intervening terrain, a gravity belt is invaluable... in that instance, you can charge. But no LOS in most instances means no charge. You can still move there, fine, but not as a charge.
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Post by captainapache on Apr 30, 2011 12:51:21 GMT -5
Great, that makes more sense now. Thanks a lot |
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I was pretty sure that was the answer, but needed the proof to show my opponent 
