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Post by malika on May 17, 2005 12:30:08 GMT -5
Well Japanese agents could be transported, or maybe send to Europe through Africa, through the Red Sea and the Suez Channel or something like that, but it would strategically be stupid for Japan to do that, they would need to give more pressure to Asia and the US while sending support to the rest of the world. What about Japan conquering large parts of Asia which would thus become loyal to Japan from where more military equipment and troops could be send throughout the world?
I'd also think Japan would have a hard time fighting the Russians later on.
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Post by CommieRabbit on May 17, 2005 12:39:35 GMT -5
I'd also think Japan would have a hard time fighting the Russians later on. I think it's best left for the fluff to cover that. Who knows how the japanese military has progressed technologically and in terms of tactics? For all we know, the fluff could say they're the most advanced nation military-wise.
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Post by malika on May 17, 2005 12:41:56 GMT -5
Well we would need to know how long this version of WWII lasts before we can fully judge on these things right?
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Post by tuska on Jul 21, 2005 9:50:23 GMT -5
-I know the USSR tried to invade Finland before, I saw seeing this more as a second invasion attempt. Well it did try it a second time but seriosly we did have 2 war whit USSR and one whit Germany... so mebye this time Germand dont burn Lapland?? and Finland keaps Helping German fight USSR.
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Post by mekorig on Dec 5, 2005 17:41:08 GMT -5
An idea: Roimmel did captures Cairo and get Middle East, but turns on Hitler after learning about the masacers or worse things...maybe another German faction, a "old germans" faction?
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Post by malika on Dec 5, 2005 19:19:48 GMT -5
I think many Germans were sort of aware of Himler's and Hitler's plans or knew about them. Hitler's ideology was very anti semetic and already made plans to remove the inferior races etc.
Personally I dont think we should split Rommel up from the rest of the German army, keep him as one of Hitler's most successful generals, defeating the British in North Africa, liberating Egypt from the British...while taking it over in the name of the Fuhrer.
Remember that the "old Germans" (I assume you mean old military leaders etc from WWI) were very pro Hitler. However some conspiracy subplots in which Nazi officers try to assassinate Hitler might be an idea...of course they might have their own reasons...
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Post by tordenskjold on Dec 6, 2005 8:39:42 GMT -5
I think we should keep Rommel loyal, though he could be isolated from the rest of the Nazi empire, being kind of forgotten in Africa while the rest of the army is concentrating on the east and west front. This could give us an excuse for using Africans in the Nazi army, as the Africans were quite keen on fighting for anyone who declared themselves enemy's of the major colonist powers, namely France and England.
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Post by recon63 on Dec 8, 2005 9:55:41 GMT -5
I think more to the point the Africans would fight anyone. ie germans supply one faction arms and they fight the allies, the allies offer better pay/weapons etc, they change sides, or even play both sides against each other so that they the Africans) are still standing after the two superior rivals have destroyed each other and they are not governed/beholdened to another greater nation........
besides if Monty had never been sent to fight Rommel in Nth Africa, then the Germans may well have won that theatre and not the Allies
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Post by malika on Dec 8, 2005 10:52:41 GMT -5
The idea of "forgotten" German fronts is cool...Africa would indeed be very fitting for this. I was thinking of several laboratories on Madagascar which has fallen to the Germans and are now trying to attack South Africa or other African nations which are loyal to the British.
IIRC Madagascar belonged to the French, we could let them turn it over to the German because of the pro German Vichi government.
So the very long term plan of the Germans would be that the forces who fight on the Eastern Front would conquer Russia and then move south while the African Korps under Rommel would move north...there both German forces would meet up!
While this goes on, the Madagascar front tries to attack the east of Africa...later on the attack could be moved from the North as well!
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Post by tordenskjold on Dec 8, 2005 15:47:15 GMT -5
Recon63: Montgomery only won because he had more resources at his disposal than Rommel, and because the Nazis did not think Africa as important as the conquest of Russia, thereby leaving Rommel on his own.
Malika: I love the idea of having the Nazi forces meet, a plan so grand that only Adolf could think it realistic (and who speaks against the fuhrer?). The Madagascar laboratories is another great idea! (you are good at getting those, aren't you?) We could have English colonials and Nazi forces fighting guerrilla wars in the thick jungle. Also, it would provide us with a great excuse of filling the African jungles with mutated horrors!
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Post by malika on Dec 8, 2005 19:39:53 GMT -5
Well...we could go further with the South African front. In Europe Holland would be occupied by the Germans and the pro nazi regime comes into power. In South Africa you still have a group of Boers (people who moved to South Africa from the Netherlands) who are still hostile towards the English for the Boer Wars. (where the concentration camps were first used ever by the British) This could lead to German/Dutch support for the Boer soldiers, supplying them with weapons and supplies.
Something similar can be done with India, the Nazis moved to Tibet searching for "roots" of the Aryan race, however later on some Nazis mentioned the idea of training guerillas to attack the English in India...perhaps that could be created later...Indian front...ooooh weapon platforms mounted on elephants ;D
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Post by xeoran on Mar 22, 2006 10:39:49 GMT -5
There should be british troops in the Pacific theatre- Burma, India and Australia. A Russo-Japanes front would be fun. North/South poles would be fun to fight over. Russo-Japanese fight in China with American and British help. Italian campaign, Brits, Yanks, Italians North Africa, no you've got to leave some under allied control, Rommel never could have won El Alemein. Also you know you want Long Range Desert Parols and SAS!
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Post by malika on Mar 23, 2006 11:00:46 GMT -5
Personally Im fond of the idea of a victory by Rommel, but perhaps we could work something out later on.
So on the current timeline the war would still be fought there but later on (when this game has grown and there are more players) we could run some campaign in which players send in their results and form there we decide who wins that front. Sort of what GW does with global campaign, but then with actual impact. However if the Germans would for example win you could ahve this large British guerilla war happening there ;D
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Post by xeoran on Mar 24, 2006 11:10:11 GMT -5
My idea would be that Britain kicks them out but using the new technology the Germans are back. Something Lawrence of Arabia like would be lots of fun too.
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Post by tordenskjold on Mar 25, 2006 3:46:10 GMT -5
How does Lawrence fit into that
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