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Post by malika on Sept 25, 2005 5:52:57 GMT -5
The transmission above was a communique from Comrade Simon, commander of the local resistance movement in Argentina to the Russian government in Moscow.
In the beginning of 1943 the Argentinian military staged a coup d'etat against the existing democratic government. The military government quickly showed its loyalties: groups of German soldiers under command of major Gunnar Roten. At first all political parties were removed from the Argentine political system, but Roten's policy rapidly changed to the total exterminator of all opposition and "potentially hostile elements" from Argentine society. Thousands of socialist, Jews, and other enemies of the Nazi ideology were hunted down and killed by Roten's forces.
In december 1943 only a small group consisting of less than a hunderd managed to escape to the mountians around the town of Mendoza near the Chilean border. The currently neutral Chile is used by these survivors to contact the allied forces (primarily the Soviet Union) for support to remove the fascist regime.
A few months later Soviet snipers secretly landed in Chile. Their mission was to train the Argentine refugees who made it to Chile into guerilla soldiers. From various secret bases in the lower Andes Mountains the Soviets smuggled guerilla soldiers and material support to the surviving resistance members around Mendoza.
However at the moment unable to totally remove the Axis presence at the moment, the rebels are only capable of staging small scale attacks to their military government...
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Post by warlordgrubnatz on Sept 25, 2005 12:50:25 GMT -5
prehaps also the uk could fite the argeninians over the falklands islands.
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Post by malika on Sept 25, 2005 12:53:12 GMT -5
That will happen later on when the Argentines will attack the Falklands, however at this time the British are too busy in Europe and their more important colonies such as India and various African nations.
The Falklands are an interesting idea though for later on, right now it will be Marxist (pro soviet) guerillas against a pro Axis government.
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Post by warlordgrubnatz on Sept 27, 2005 13:01:47 GMT -5
okay then sounds kinda cool.
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Post by malika on Sept 27, 2005 13:41:24 GMT -5
In April 1944 the first agents from the Soviet Union landed in Argentina. Comrade Veronika (nom de guerre), a trained Russian Sniper with the rank of captain, was in charge or the Soviet presence in Argentina. In the first year of her arrival several towns around Mendoza fell under the control of the pro Soviet guerillas.
The Nazi advisors made sure the military government of Argentina quickly reinforced Cordoba and the surrounding area, furthermore various infiltrators were sent to the west in order to deal with the Soviet guerilla threat.
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Post by tordenskjold on Sept 28, 2005 15:01:29 GMT -5
Waht about well known south american communist heros like Che Guvarer and Fidel Castro? They could have a huge impact on the south americans as they arent acting in the interests of the great powers, but on their own dreams of freeing their home countrys from nazi oppresion.
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Post by malika on Sept 28, 2005 16:08:07 GMT -5
True...the problem however is that Castro and Guevara were still teenagers in this time, however the idea of the Cuban Revolution is cool, perhaps something for later on in the timeline.
We could keep history sort of similar, the US still tries to have a neo-colonial policy in Latin America, installing military dictators to protect their companies interests and then in the late 50s and 60s there would be socialist rebellions. But this is something that might be cool for later in the timeline (the war will probably go on until later in this game)
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Post by mekorig on Dec 5, 2005 17:06:20 GMT -5
Hi , new to the forum. I found it in Portent.
Just a remark. I am from Argentina, and i will tell you some thing that might help you.
While in the 40´s were a strong facist presence in Argentina, there werent enough strong to gain in a coup. The socialist also were strong, has the USA, that was triying to replace the UK has the main comercial partner of the Argentina. IN that age Argentina was in very good term whit the UK, at least comercially. Also, even whit half the army of their side, when the mass killings began the facist would lose their foothold in the army.
My recomendation. Made the Argentine facist whit support from part of the army try a coup, and when the thing swamped betewn the loyal forces, the facist and the socialist guerrillas, make the germans send some troops and vehicules in "secret transport subs". Then you will have a very nice battlefront betewn the socialist guerrillas backed by the soviets, the facist backed by the Nazis (why not some help from Franco?) and the loyal forces, maybe backed by the USA.
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Post by malika on Dec 5, 2005 19:11:24 GMT -5
Let the loyalist become neutral or sort of trying to coorporate with the socialists. The fascists are the main enemy...it would basicly be an indirect conflict between the USSR and Nazi Germany. The US waits and watches them kill each other off and when that is done they can come in and "liberate" Argentina.
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Post by xeoran on Mar 22, 2006 9:59:22 GMT -5
Not necessarily. The US would want to protect material interests in Argentina which would be disrupted byt he civil war. Both facist and socialist guerilla groups rage war in the villages, occasionally butchering towns or raididng cities. Locals band together against all these threats while US troops (possibly other Alled troops too, UK or otherwise) train and aid Argentinian government troops to quell insurgency, protect villages and keep trade flowing.
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Post by malika on Mar 23, 2006 11:03:07 GMT -5
The US might want to protect material interests but is in no state of creating a puppet government or invading Argentina...yet. I would let them support the allies (as in Soviets) in a limited amount. The UK would probably launch preemtives attacks (the idea of a missle base on the Falk lands jsut sounds cool) against Argentina because they are scared of invasion.
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Post by xeoran on Mar 24, 2006 11:13:31 GMT -5
Why scared of Invasion...theres nothing there. The Falklands war was because there were no other wars so it was possible to free them. However in WW2 terms its insignificant. Like the idea of a missile base though. I see US not having a puppet government but sending advisors and training units.
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Post by malika on Mar 25, 2006 8:55:16 GMT -5
I think we could alter bits, like the use of the Falkland Islands, if Argentina has a more pro axis government the British would try to have some base nearby from which they could attack it. The Falklands would be perfect for this.
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Post by xeoran on Mar 31, 2006 14:00:22 GMT -5
Possibly a British Naval (or Allied) base. Maybe there is a trade route to something down there...something the Allies need....
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Post by malika on Apr 5, 2006 10:17:54 GMT -5
Not really a trade route, its more of a base where the British fleet could refuel before they more to Argentina. So it would be the base location for a British force to prepare for invasion. Or what about long range artillery that tries to take out Buenos Aires from those islands?
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