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Post by CmdrKiley on Sept 13, 2009 22:09:54 GMT -5
OK, I'm going through the book and I notice that the British Chaplain has an RC 4+ and the note below it states he's got combat training. However, it also states he has None for Equipment. Also he has Pacifism.
I can see the Pacisfism still working, as he can still make attacks against non-human adversaries, but what does he have to make those attacks with?
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Post by csr556 on Sept 14, 2009 10:27:10 GMT -5
Throwing Holy Water or stakes, maybe?
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Post by CmdrKiley on Sept 14, 2009 14:22:41 GMT -5
The Holy Hand Grenade from Monty Python? He is British...
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Post by xeoran on Sept 14, 2009 15:27:13 GMT -5
I can see the Pacisfism still working, as he can still make attacks against non-human adversaries, but what does he have to make those attacks with? At risk of starting a theological debate, he fights with his 'faith'.
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Post by cybogoblin on Sept 15, 2009 6:17:06 GMT -5
At risk of starting a theological debate, he fights with his 'faith'. I got to see an original copy of the King James Bible when I was in Vegas. I certainly wouldn't want someone using that as a weapon against me, the thing was massive!
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Post by CmdrKiley on Feb 23, 2010 13:18:04 GMT -5
OK, still haven't gotten any serious answer on this. My group is planning on running a campaign, we've got some newbies and lots of questions forming. Given the interest in SS Occult units, there has been a lot of interest in fielding chaplains lately.
Am I safe to assume a pistol? And with the Pacifism ability, does that mean he can only use it against non-human models?
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Post by abbysdad on Feb 23, 2010 14:08:10 GMT -5
OK, still haven't gotten any serious answer on this. My group is planning on running a campaign, we've got some newbies and lots of questions forming. Given the interest in SS Occult units, there has been a lot of interest in fielding chaplains lately. Am I safe to assume a pistol? And with the Pacifism ability, does that mean he can only use it against non-human models? I think you could assume a pistol safely. But we will look at this and get back to you ASAP. Thanks for your patience. Cheers, Chris
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Post by skorzeny on Feb 23, 2010 20:41:58 GMT -5
No equipment means no equipment. Of the three chaplains in the Occult book, only the German one was issued a sidearm by his nation's military. The British chaplain does not have a weapon as standard kit. If he is made a hero or the beneficiary of a special order, he may then gain access to a weapon, however is still not allowed to use the weapon against another human being, only against animals or supernatural creatures.
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Post by CmdrKiley on Feb 23, 2010 21:21:06 GMT -5
So that means he's unarmed unless he gets a hero template like One Man Army. Where he gains an LMG and hand grenades. And the RC stat allows him to use them, but because of his Pacifism only against non-human threats. Same thing as his detachment having the Molotov thingytails special order.
So my One Man Army Chaplain now armed with a Vickers and hand grenades along with his Bible and vestments can now mow down vampires and werewolves while saying "I kick arse for The Lord!"
OK, that makes sense! Thanks.
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Post by skorzeny on Feb 23, 2010 21:54:37 GMT -5
Exactly. There will be other hero types from time to time that also give a weapon of some sort and the same rules apply. In the case of a SO, he would also gain whatever weaponry the rest of the detachment has.
Unlike American and German chaplains, British chaplains did receive combat training, so they knew how to handle themselves even if they weren't expected to do any actual fighting. Hence the British chaplian has higher stats than his American and German counterparts.
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Post by Scorpio on Feb 24, 2010 11:03:30 GMT -5
So my One Man Army Chaplain now armed with a Vickers and hand grenades along with his Bible and vestments can now mow down vampires and werewolves while saying "I kick arse for The Lord!" Oh, wow. That's even better than the Rocket Hero Chaplin I was envisioning.
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Post by Darkson on Feb 24, 2010 22:09:54 GMT -5
Funny I was thinking the Rocket Hero as well. not sure if it would work as it is an America Hero type? Sorry don't have my book with me.
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Post by skorzeny on Feb 24, 2010 22:26:05 GMT -5
It would. The chaplain can be upped to Hero status, just not his assistant.
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Post by mkcontra on Feb 25, 2010 7:01:12 GMT -5
But last I checked, a British chap can't take a US hero type.
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Post by abbysdad on Feb 25, 2010 7:53:26 GMT -5
But last I checked, a British chap can't take a US hero type. The One Man army isn't a US only hero type. The Brits can take it as an option. The Rocket Hero is a US Army only option. See OTW #12. So go kick arse for the lord! Just don't go flying off into the wild blue when you do it.
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