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Post by warlordgrubnatz on Oct 24, 2005 14:41:50 GMT -5
i was thinking of area 51 game were thay filmed the moon landings and produced propaanda alongside their alien experients.
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Post by malika on Oct 24, 2005 17:15:20 GMT -5
Wasnt area 51 the space stuff place?
I mean why would you try to build a doomsday weapon in the same building where the propaganda people make their movies?
Besides I would assume area 51 has several buildings and complexes
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Post by warlordgrubnatz on Oct 25, 2005 14:06:42 GMT -5
why not? I just think it would be a pulpish cool thing to do. Area 51 is made of several hangars and complexes, belived to go deep underground.
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Post by malika on Oct 25, 2005 14:35:12 GMT -5
I dont say that the Germans wouldnt have a secret laboratory for creating all sorts of creepy things. Im just curious why propaganda (media) and experiments (science) should be in the same complex. I think it could be more fitting to have them seperatly. Germany had an actual ministry of propaganda, so I think it could be cool to give that more attention as well.
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Post by warlordgrubnatz on Oct 26, 2005 16:39:49 GMT -5
no in real life it would be more fitting to have them seperate. In a pulp universe a sinister, propaganda, experimeation lab would be more fiting. A place for role plays, fiction and mystery.
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Post by mekorig on Dec 5, 2005 17:33:06 GMT -5
umm..some ideas:
Nazis: We are trying to crate a 4ยบ Eternal reich, and improve the human race. The impure will die, and the strong will survive. They are the good guys in their own perverted way. Allies (or USA): We are the good guys, we are fighting the evil nazis, the evil japanese, the evil comunist (if you want to put the allies and ythe soviets no alied). But they would sdo anything to get the advantage, even doing masive carpet bombings, or overtrowing neutral countries to get resources. japan: We are trying to crate a new Japanese empire in Asia. Simple. Everything non japanese (no the Nazis) are worthless. China: We are trying to survive, to any cost. UK (and Comomnweatlh): We will fight the evil germans, and try to recreate our fading empire. Italy: We are trying to recreate the Roman Empire (they are just Nazis lapdogs). Russians (weare defending the motherland of the evil capitalist and facist, and trying to export the revolution to the whole world.
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Post by xeoran on Mar 22, 2006 10:20:49 GMT -5
Germans (not Nazis, the poor Germans always get beaten with the Nazi stick); We must protect ourselves from Communism through any means. (*Nazi*) We must perfect the Aryan race and show supremacy. We can use the inferior (untermenschen) races as slaves (hence Balkan troops- Rumaninas, Czechs etc etc) (possible bio engineered slaves). Germany shall never be humiliated like at Versailles again. America; We dont want this war but were dragged in. So we're going to win! Never stoop as low as Germans/Russians. This is total war, no real civilians (please include rules for Americans being very disorderly as a bad thing. They were, theres a reason why they werent supposed to go near chateaus [they trashed them]). For Uncle Sam, mom's apple pie etc (idealistic but naieve) Japan; we will throw the Westeners out of the Pacific! Russia must be defeated again. Imperial Japan will show her true glory. (very militaristic, very, very nasty) (use of Chinese/Korean slave soldiers) Russians; Defend the Motherland. We will free the workers of the world! Destroy the Axis. Alliance with Allies is disagreeable but required. France; Vichy unwilling German allies/ Free French are allies of British
From a marketing perspective i suggest the following; Start with Germans, Americans and Russians. Russians can include Chinese freedom fighters and the like. Germans have Italians, Vichy French, Eastern Europeans, Finnish, Balkans, Spanish. Americans have americans. Those would be the three most popular armies. They can be followed up by Japan (a Pacific war supplement perhaps?) and Allies. Allies contain Free French, British Empire and Commonwealth (UK, India, Australia, Canada etc) Polish, Norwegians. That should cover the whole world in 5 factions with rough allies (Germany-Japan) (Allies-Americans) (Russia-Allies/Americans).
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Post by Darkson on Apr 2, 2006 4:42:44 GMT -5
*NAZI* will not be a term that will be used as it just sounds bad and people tend to not want to get into a game that supports "Hate". We will be having the "German Empire" and it will have its Bad guys and its Heroic Good Germans. The Germans will be a Few faction's in one Great Empire with its inner battles. Good stuff. You will be able to have German on German battles if you want as the fluff will support it.
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Post by myincubliss on Apr 2, 2006 5:23:59 GMT -5
but the nazi is an iconic term (at least, in terms of semiological implications) - plus people need to remember - fiction! this is set in 1946! the a in aewwii is for alternate, no?! hee hee plus in the concept sketches for the german greatcoats they were labelled nazi, no?
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Post by myincubliss on Apr 2, 2006 7:26:00 GMT -5
plus have something like dust has:
"Please note that sometimes the artwork will represent a subject inspired from real WW2 uniforms or insigna, it may contain details or markings that some may find offensive. The inclusion of those insigna or markings is i NO WAY an endorsement or approval of the activities associated with the subject matter at any time or manner." [sic]
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Post by tordenskjold on Apr 2, 2006 7:54:11 GMT -5
I have allways used the term Nazis to seperate Germans and members of the German national-socialistic party of 1936. However, as from this moment I will be using the term Germans, as dictated by darksons forum policy.
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Post by myincubliss on Apr 2, 2006 9:19:35 GMT -5
but still (quoting ben affleck, of all people) 'fic-tio-nal characters!' but still, i accept that nazi won't make it as an army (but still find it a little harsh that there'll be nowt in the way of iconography - that was the main strength of the party, no? that they evoked images of a mighty romn empire, all flashing eagles and marching ranks...)
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Post by Darkson on Apr 3, 2006 4:59:14 GMT -5
but still (quoting ben affleck, of all people) 'fic-tio-nal characters!' but still, i accept that nazi won't make it as an army (but still find it a little harsh that there'll be nowt in the way of iconography - that was the main strength of the party, no? that they evoked images of a mighty romn empire, all flashing eagles and marching ranks...) We have plenty of fire and brimstone imagery that will be hitting you. Just if you want to try to get a box game into as many places as possible its a good idea to not have "Nazi" on the product. Don't worry the images will say enough. If you want feel free to paint he party arm bands on your mini's as they are your mini's.
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Post by myincubliss on Apr 3, 2006 5:02:31 GMT -5
awesome. black and silver all the way! (maybe i should stop using exclusively black undercoats...)
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Post by xeoran on Apr 3, 2006 6:51:33 GMT -5
Maybe you could 'promote' German grunts to being 'Nazi' party? Extra points makes them fanatical but slightly beserk as well as allowing certain 'exclusive' equipment. Perhaps a serious seperation between Waffen SS (ie the Army guys who werent nutcases) and SS who are more civilian and nasty by nature? I feel Nazism should be in there, you dont condone it but shrinking away from the issue wont help. In much the same way 'coloured' American units could be used (lets not be shy, we dont condone it but it happened, often its better to remind than forget). As you said with factions i can easily see an SS faction (Knightly orders, hImmler etc), Army (Waffen SS and Volunteers too), Science fation (expriments etc).... In much the smae way i hope we have divisions between Allies/Soviets etc
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